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Interview with Grace Thompson Edmister (continuation), May 3, 1973

 File — Box: 1, CD: 11

Scope and Content

From the Collection: The original Curtis field recordings have been reformatted to CDs from reel to reel tapes. As in the goal of the Robb archive, Curtis and her associates at the Fine Arts Library have captured part of the rich musical heritage and history of the people of New Mexico. The collection includes both music and oral interviews.

Among the recording are Navajo morning songs and blessing ways, a Navajo music and dance workshop, Keresan children’s play - game songs, Laguna and other Pueblo songs, and All American Championship Indian powwow dances in the Mescalero Reservation and Ruidoso, New Mexico. The collection contains Native American recordings made in New Mexico by Philip Encino and Lorenzo Aragon. In addition, there are songs from the South Cheyenne, other Plains Indians and the Indians of Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia and Ayacucho, Peru. Among the Hispanic or Spanish pieces are traditional and original New Mexican and Mexican folk songs, alabados and matachines from San Jose parish, Albuquerque and Spanish Christmas shepherd pageants in Albuquerque. There are also songs from Holy Week passion celebrations in Villanueva and Tome, New Mexico; Cordova, Spain; and among the Tarahumara Indians, from Cusarare, in Chihuahua, Mexico. These recordings feature the native instruments of the Tarahumara - flutes, drums and the chapareque. Other recordings contain Spanish music at a UNM campus Cinco de Mayo Celebration, Catholic masses and church music programs, Spanish wedding music, and popular Spanish dance bands. Included also are recorded lectures by Cleofes Vigil on New Mexico Hispanic music traditions and on New Mexico territorial corridos or ballads by Ruben Cobos. Represented also are Anglo American old time fiddle contests in Portales, New Mexico, country western music from Clovis, and cowboy songs performed by Steve Cormier. There are also recordings of African American religious gospel music from Mount Olive Baptist Church and Grant Chapel, in Albuquerque.

Charlemaud Curtis and her associates also conducted interviews with old timers from Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Clovis, La Joya and Lordsburg. Sometimes they did them during the music events they were taping and other times made special trips to record people. Individuals were also making interesting comments within the various musical programs as they were being taped. Some were individuals that Curtis knew through her family or were folks she met in her recording trips. The interviews represent the views of a Mexican American immigrant as well as several Hispanics and Anglo Americans.

One set of interviews covers the history of the development of music institutions in Albuquerque, including the UNM music department and local community concerts, opera, and the civic orchestra. Another group of interviews deals with Santa Rosa, New Mexico - giving both the Spanish and Anglo American view of the town’s development. They tell about the town and area history, cattle and sheep ranching, the first water and electric facilities, and the impact of the railroad and interstate highway on the town (Route 66) and the depression. There are also accounts of early American pioneers in Santa Rosa, doctors and the 1918 flu epidemic, Hispanic distrust of Santa Rosa bankers, trading at stores on credit, and the working of the sheep partido system in the area. Also included are stories of the early New Mexico Spanish settlers’ hardy faith, team spirit, foods and songs. Others describe making santos with a machete and local dyes, Spanish place names, the Santa Fe Trail and San Miguel County politics. In a 1976 interview, Judge Moise, from Santa Rosa, comments on Rudolfo Anaya’s Bless Me Ultima, a novel based in Santa Rosa . We also learn about early Anglo American ranch families in Clovis and an Anglo American pioneer woman’s life in Quay County. Covered, too, are the views of a Mexican American man in Lordsburg on migrant farm labor, working for the railroad, local foods and getting his first social security checks from the government. There are also discussions of the origin and characters of the Los Pastores performances at San Jose parish, in the south valley of Albuquerque and the history of La Joya land grant, Thomas Campbell, the church and school, and that town’s fiesta traditions.

There are program flyers and/or notes from a couple of these events in Box 2. This collection is part of the John Donald Robb Archive of Southwestern Music.

Dates

  • May 3, 1973

Language of Materials

From the Collection: English Spanish

Access Restrictions

The collection is open for research.

Extent

From the Collection: 3 boxes (.45 cu. ft., including 89 CDs and 5 folders)

General

Edmister tells of when she first learned a native song from a chief who she knew. She then plays the excerpt from “The First American" – Indian pageant in Albuquerque. She speaks about how when she first met Dean John Donald Robb she took him to a few Native American music events. Dean Robb was thrilled to attend these things, and Charlemaud concurs that Robb had been very happy since he had been here (University of New Mexico, Albuquerque). The dedication of one of the organs in the University Fine Arts building is discussed, she tells that she played the organ at the dedication in 1938. She shuffles through and discusses a few programs that she was involved with. They see names or photos of people and begin to just briefly talk about what they were involved in during their time in Albuquerque, and where they had since gone off to and what they were doing. Names mentioned are Keller (Walter Keller), John Randall, among other names not clearly or completely stated. She begins to discuss the period around the production of “The First American." She comments on what newspaper articles said about the performance, she finds photos of her daughter in this (?) performance. She finds letters in relation to the performance in the San Pedro mine. She mentions that “The First American" - Indian pageant had 2000 Indians in it. She directed all different types of ensembles and groups for this performance. They took the performance to New York, and brought 30 soloists and all their scenery. The Vincent Lopez orchestra would be the orchestra to play for the New York performance. She again discusses the committee who was in charge of beginning the creation of the Albuquerque Civic Symphony. Discrepancy over when the first season was: 1931, or 1932–1933, with the first concert in November, 1932. She discusses their venues at the Kimo Theater and the Sunshine Theater. She mentions guest musicians from Italy, etc. Letters received from Mr. Krenek (Ernst?) refer to the compositions he composed in the Southwest. The first “Pops Concert" was performed in 1935. She shuffles through programs of their many spring concerts. “The First American" peageant was first performed in 1931.

Repository Details

Part of the UNM Center for Southwest Research & Special Collections Repository

Contact:
University of New Mexico Center for Southwest Research & Special Collections
University Libraries, MSC05 3020
1 University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131
505-277-6451